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節葬下 - Simplicity in Funerals III

English translation: W. P. Mei [?] Library Resources
5 節葬下:
是故求以富家而既已不可矣,欲以眾人民,意者可邪?其說又不可矣。今唯無以厚葬久喪者為政,君死,喪之三年;父母死,喪之三年;妻與後子死者,五皆喪之三年;然後伯父叔父兄弟孽子其;族人五月;姑姊甥舅皆有月數。則毀瘠必有制矣,使面目陷陬,顏色黧黑,耳目不聰明,手足不勁強,不可用也。又曰上士操喪也,必扶而能起,杖而能行,以此共三年。若法若言,行若道,苟其飢約,又若此矣,是故百姓冬不仞寒,夏不仞暑,作疾病死者,不可勝計也。此其為敗男女之交多矣。以此求眾,譬猶使人負劍,而求其壽也。眾之說無可得焉。
Simplicity in Funerals III:...:
Now that the practice of elaborate funerals and extended mourning has failed to enrich the country perhaps it can yet increase the population? Again it is powerless. For if elaborate funeral and extended mourning are adopted as the rule, then upon the death of the emperor there will be three years' mourning, upon the death of a parent there will be three years' mourning, upon the death of the wife or the eldest son there will be three years' mourning. There will be three years' mourning for all five (relations). Besides, there will be one year for uncles, brothers, and the other sons; and five months for the near relatives, and also several months for aunts, sisters, nephews, and uncles on the mother's side. Further, there are set rules to emaciate one's health: the face and eyes are to look sunken and as if in fear, and the complexion is to appear dark. Ears and eyes are to become dull, and hands and feet are to become weak and unusable. And, also, if the mourner is a high official, he has to be supported to rise and lean on a cane to walk. And this is to last three years if such a doctrine is adopted and such a principle is practised. Being so hungry and weak, the people cannot stand the cold in winter and the heat in summer. And countless numbers will become sick and die. Sexual relations between husband and wife are prevented. To seek to increase the population by this way is like seeking longevity by thrusting one's self upon a sword. The way to dense population is not here found.

11 節葬下:
今王公大人之為葬埋,則異於此。必大棺中棺,革闠三操,璧玉即具,戈劍鼎鼓壺濫,文繡素練,大鞅萬領,輿馬女樂皆具,曰必捶涂差通,壟雖凡山陵。此為輟民之事,靡民之財,不可勝計也,其為毋用若此矣。」是故子墨子曰:「鄉者,吾本言曰,意亦使
1其言,用其謀,計厚葬久喪,請可以富貧眾寡,定危治亂乎,則仁也,義也,孝子之事也,為人謀者,不可不勸也;意亦使法其言,用其謀,若人厚葬久喪,實不可以富貧眾寡,定危治亂乎,則非仁也,非義也,非孝子之事也,為人謀者,不可不沮也。是故求以富國家,甚得貧焉;欲以眾人民,甚得寡焉;欲以治刑政,甚得亂焉;求以禁止大國之攻小國也,而既已不可矣;欲以干上帝鬼神之福,又得禍焉。上稽之堯舜禹湯文武之道而政逆之,下稽之桀紂幽厲之事,猶合節也。若以此觀,則厚葬久喪其非聖王之道也。」
Simplicity in Funerals III:...:
The way in which the present rulers are buried is quite different from this. There are the outer and the inner coffins, and then the three layers of hide and embroidered covers. When the stones and jade are all collected, there are yet to be completed the spears, swords, dings, pots and ice receptacles, and ten thousand of decorated reins and yokes, and the carriages, horses, and the chorus girls. Then, there must be built the tunnel to reach under the tomb which is as high as a hill. This interferes with people's work and wastes people's wealth to such a great extent. How indeed is this to be avoided? So Mozi said: I have already said that if in adopting the doctrine and practising the principle, elaborate funeral and extended mourning really could enrich the poor, increase the few, remove danger and regulate disorder, they would be magnanimous, righteous, and the duty of the filial son. Those who give counsel could not but encourage them. (On the other hand,) if in adopting the doctrine and practising the principle, elaborate funeral and extended mourning really cannot enrich the poor, increase the few, remove danger and regulate disorder, they are not magnanimous, righteous, and the duty of the filial son. Those who are to give counsel cannot but discourage it. Now, (we have seen) that to seek to enrich a country thereby brings about poverty; to seek to increase the people thereby results in a decrease; and to seek to regulate government thereby begets disorder. To seek to prevent the large states from attacking the small ones by this way is impossible on the one hand, and, on the other, to seek to procure blessing from God and the spirits through it only brings calamity. When we look up and examine the ways of Yao, Shun, Yu, Tang, Wen, and Wu, we find it is diametrically opposed to (these). But when we look down and examine the regimes of Jie, Zhou, You, and Li, we find it agrees with these like two parts of a tally. So, judging from these, elaborate funeral and extended mourning are not the way of the sage-kings.

1. 法 : Inserted. 孫詒讓《墨子閒詁》

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