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齐物论 - The Adjustment of Controversies

English translation: James Legge [?]
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12 齐物论:
瞿鹊子问乎长梧子曰:“吾闻诸夫子,圣人不从事于务,不就利,不违害,不喜求,不缘道,无谓有谓,有谓无谓,而游乎尘垢之外。夫子以为孟浪之言,而我以为妙道之行也。吾子以为奚若?”长梧子曰:“是黄帝之所听荧也,而丘也何足以知之!且女亦大早计,见卵而求时夜,见弹而求鴞炙。予尝为女妄言之,女以妄听之,奚?旁日月,挟宇宙,为其脗合,置其滑涽,以隶相尊。众人役役,圣人愚芚,参万岁而一成纯。万物尽然,而以是相蕴。予恶乎知说生之非惑邪!予恶乎知恶死之非弱丧而不知归者邪!丽之姬,艾封人之子也。晋国之始得之也,涕泣沾襟;及其至于王所,与王同筐床,食刍豢,而后悔其泣也。予恶乎知夫死者不悔其始之蕲生乎!梦饮酒者,旦而哭泣;梦哭泣者,旦而田猎。方其梦也,不知其梦也。梦之中又占其梦焉,觉而后知其梦也。且有大觉而后知此其大梦也,而愚者自以为觉,窃窃然知之。君乎,牧乎,固哉!丘也,与女皆梦也;予谓女梦,亦梦也。是其言也,其名为吊诡。万世之后,而一遇大圣知其解者,是旦暮遇之也。既使我与若辩矣,若胜我,我不若胜,若果是也?我果非也邪?我胜若,若不吾胜,我果是也?而果非也邪?其或是也,其或非也邪?其俱是也,其俱非也邪?我与若不能相知也,则人固受其黮暗。吾谁使正之?使同乎若者正之,既与若同矣,恶能正之!使同乎我者正之,既同乎我矣,恶能正之!使异乎我与若者正之,既异乎我与若矣,恶能正之!使同乎我与若者正之,既同乎我与若矣,恶能正之!然则我与若与人俱不能相知也,而待彼也邪?何
化声之相待,若其不相待。和之以天倪,因之以曼衍,所以穷年也。
1谓和之以天倪?曰:是不是,然不然。是若果是也,则是之异乎不是也亦无辩;然若果然也,则然之异乎不然也亦无辩。
化声之相待,若其不相待。和之以天倪,因之以曼衍,所以穷年也。
2忘年忘义,振于无竟,故寓诸无竟。”
The Adjustment of Controversies:...:
Qu Quezi asked Chang Wuzi, saying, 'I heard the Master (speaking of such language as the following): "The sagely man does not occupy himself with worldly affairs. He does not put himself in the way of what is profitable, nor try to avoid what is hurtful; he has no pleasure in seeking (for anything from any one); he does not care to be found in (any established) Way; he speaks without speaking; he does not speak when he speaks; thus finding his enjoyment outside the dust and dirt (of the world)." The Master considered all this to be a shoreless flow of mere words, and I consider it to describe the course of the Mysterious Way - What do you, Sir, think of it?' Chang Wuzi replied, 'The hearing of such words would have perplexed even Huang Di, and how should Qiu be competent to understand them? And you, moreover, are too hasty in forming your estimate (of their meaning). You see the egg, and (immediately) look out for the cock (that is to be hatched from it); you see the bow, and (immediately) look out for the dove (that is to be brought down by it) being roasted. I will try to explain the thing to you in a rough way; do you in the same way listen to me. How could any one stand by the side of the sun and moon, and hold under his arm all space and all time? (Such language only means that the sagely man) keeps his mouth shut, and puts aside questions that are uncertain and dark; making his inferior capacities unite with him in honouring (the One Lord). Men in general bustle about and toil; the sagely man seems stupid and to know nothing. He blends ten thousand years together in the one (conception of time); the myriad things all pursue their spontaneous course, and they are all before him as doing so. How do I know that the love of life is not a delusion? and that the dislike of death is not like a young person's losing his way, and not knowing that he is (really) going home? Li Ji was a daughter of the border Warden of Ai. When (the ruler of) the state of Jin first got possession of her, she wept till the tears wetted all the front of her dress. But when she came to the place of the king, shared with him his luxurious couch, and ate his grain-and-grass-fed meat, then she regretted that she had wept. How do I know that the dead do not repent of their former craving for life? Those who dream of (the pleasures of) drinking may in the morning wail and weep; those who dream of wailing and weeping may in the morning be going out to hunt. When they were dreaming they did not know it was a dream; in their dream they may even have tried to interpret it; but when they awoke they knew that it was a dream. And there is the great awaking, after which we shall know that this life was a great dream. All the while, the stupid think they are awake, and with nice discrimination insist on their knowledge; now playing the part of rulers, and now of grooms. Bigoted was that Qiu! He and you are both dreaming. I who say that you are dreaming am dreaming myself. These words seem very strange; but if after ten thousand ages we once meet with a great sage who knows how to explain them, it will be as if we met him (unexpectedly) some morning or evening.
Since you made me enter into this discussion with you, if you have got the better of me and not I of you, are you indeed right, and I indeed wrong? If I have got the better of you and not you of me, am I indeed right and you indeed wrong? Is the one of us right and the other wrong? are we both right or both wrong? Since we cannot come to a mutual and common understanding, men will certainly continue in darkness on the subject. Whom shall I employ to adjudicate in the matter? If I employ one who agrees with you, how can he, agreeing with you, do so correctly? If I employ one who agrees with me, how can he, agreeing with me, do so correctly? If I employ one who disagrees with you and I, how can he, disagreeing with you and I, do so correctly? If I employ one who agrees with you and I, how can he, agreeing with you and I, do so correctly? In this way I and you and those others would all not be able to come to a mutual understanding; and shall we then wait for that (great sage)? (We need not do so.) To wait on others to learn how conflicting opinions are changed is simply like not so waiting at all. The harmonising of them is to be found in the invisible operation of Heaven, and by following this on into the unlimited past. It is by this method that we can complete our years (without our minds being disturbed). What is meant by harmonising (conflicting opinions) in the invisible operation of Heaven? There is the affirmation and the denial of it; and there is the assertion of an opinion and the rejection of it. If the affirmation be according to the reality of the fact, it is certainly different from the denial of it - there can be no dispute about that. If the assertion of an opinion be correct, it is certainly different from its rejection - neither can there be any dispute about that. Let us forget the lapse of time; let us forget the conflict of opinions. Let us make our appeal to the Infinite, and take up our position there.'

1. 化声之相待,若其不相待。和之以天倪,因之以曼衍,所以穷年也。 : Moved here from entry 12.
2. 化声之相待,若其不相待。和之以天倪,因之以曼衍,所以穷年也。 : Moved to entry 12.

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