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知北遊 - Knowledge Rambling in the North

English translation: James Legge [?]
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知北遊於玄水之上,登隱弅之丘,而適遭無為謂焉。知謂無為謂曰:「予欲有問乎若:何思何慮則知道?何處何服則安道?何從何道則得道?」三問而無為謂不答也,非不答,不知答也。知不得問,反於白水之南,登狐闋之丘,而睹狂屈焉。知以之言也問乎狂屈。狂屈曰:「唉!予知之,將語若,中欲言而忘其所欲言。」知不得問,反於帝宮,見黃帝而問焉。黃帝曰:「無思無慮始知道,無處無服始安道,無從無道始得道。」
Knowledge Rambling in the...:
Knowledge had rambled northwards to the region of the Dark Water, where he ascended the height of Imperceptible Slope, when it happened that he met with Dumb Inaction. Knowledge addressed him, saying, 'I wish to ask you some questions: By what process of thought and anxious consideration do we get to know the Dao? Where should we dwell and what should we do to find our rest in the Dao? From what point should we start and what path should we pursue to make the Dao our own?' He asked these three questions, but Dumb Inaction gave him no reply. Not only did he not answer, but he did not know how to answer.
Knowledge, disappointed by the fruitlessness of his questions, returned to the south of the Bright Water, and ascended the height of the End of Doubt, where he saw Heedless Blurter, to whom he put the same questions, and who replied, 'Ah! I know, and will tell you.' But while he was about to speak, he forgot what he wanted to say.
Knowledge, (again) receiving no answer to his questions, returned to the palace of the Di, where he saw Huang-Di, and put the questions to him. Huang-Di said, 'To exercise no thought and no anxious consideration is the first step towards knowing the Dao; to dwell nowhere and do nothing is the first step towards resting in the Dao; to start from nowhere and pursue no path is the first step towards making the Dao your own.'
知問黃帝曰:「我與若知之,彼與彼不知也,其孰是邪?」黃帝曰:「彼無為謂真是也,狂屈似之,我與汝終不近也。夫知者不言,言者不知,故聖人行不言之教。道不可致,德不可至。仁可為也,義可虧也,禮相偽也。故曰:『失道而後德,失德而後仁,失仁而後義,失義而後禮。禮者,道之華而亂之首也。』故曰:『為道者日損,損之又損之,以至於無為,無為而無不為也。』今已為物也,欲復歸根,不亦難乎!其易也,其唯大人乎!生也死之徒,死也生之始,孰知其紀!人之生,氣之聚也,聚則為生,散則為死。若死生為徒,吾又何患!故萬物一也,是其所美者為神奇,其所惡者為臭腐;臭腐復化為神奇,神奇復化為臭腐。故曰:『通天下一氣耳。』聖人故貴一。」
Knowledge then asked Huang-Di, saying, 'I and you know this; those two did not know it; which of us is right?' The reply was, 'Dumb Inaction is truly right; Heedless Blurter has an appearance of being so; I and you are not near being so. (As it is said), "Those who know (the Dao) do not speak of it; those who speak of it do not know it;" and "Hence the sage conveys his instructions without the use of speech." The Dao cannot be made ours by constraint; its characteristics will not come to us (at our call). Benevolence may be practised; Righteousness may be partially attended to; by Ceremonies men impose on one another. Hence it is said, "When the Dao was lost, its Characteristics appeared. When its Characteristics were lost, Benevolence appeared. When Benevolence was lost, Righteousness appeared. When Righteousness was lost, Ceremonies appeared. Ceremonies are but (the unsubstantial) flowers of the Dao, and the commencement of disorder." Hence (also it is further said), "He who practises the Dao, daily diminishes his doing. He diminishes it and again diminishes it, till he arrives at doing nothing. Having arrived at this non-inaction, there is nothing that he does not do." Here now there is something, a regularly fashioned utensil - if you wanted to make it return to the original condition of its materials, would it not be difficult to make it do so? Could any but the Great Man accomplish this easily?
'Life is the follower of death, and death is the predecessor of life; but who knows the Arranger (of this connexion between them)? The life is due to the collecting of the breath. When that is collected, there is life; when it is dispersed, there is death. Since death and life thus attend on each other, why should I account (either of) them an evil?
'Therefore all things go through one and the same experience. (Life) is accounted beautiful because it is spirit-like and wonderful, and death is accounted ugly because of its foetor and putridity. But the foetid and putrid is transformed again into the spirit-like and wonderful, and the spirit-like and wonderful is transformed again into the foetid and putrid. Hence it is said, "All under the sky there is one breath of life, and therefore the sages prized that unity."'
知謂黃帝曰:「吾問無為謂,無為謂不應我,非不我應,不知應我也。吾問狂屈,狂屈中欲告我而不我告,非不我告,中欲告而忘之也。今予問乎若,若知之,奚故不近?」黃帝曰:「彼其真是也,以其不知也;此其似之也,以其忘之也;予與若終不近也,以其知之也。」
Knowledge said to Huang-Di, 'I asked Dumb Inaction, and he did not answer me. Not only did he not answer me, but he did not know how to answer me. I asked Heedless Blurter, and while he wanted to tell me, he yet did not do so. Not only did he not tell me, but while he wanted to tell me, he forgot all about my questions. Now I have asked you, and you knew (all about them) - why (do you say that) you are not near doing so?' Huang-Di replied, 'Dumb Inaction was truly right, because he did not know the thing. Heedless Blurter was nearly right, because he forgot it. I and you are not nearly right, because we know it.'
狂屈聞之,以黃帝為知言。
Heedless Blurter heard of (all this), and considered that Huang-Di knew how to express himself (on the subject).

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