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2022-09-23 04:23:38Data wiki: person entity
Posted by: liuyao	Glad to see ctext is moving to a markup platform (+ relational database, + more). Over the last couple of years, I've come to the conviction that Chinese names should be treated as a multi-part identifier (more than just the xing + ming). I believe the full form should be displayed across the top of the "person entity" page, as well as the snippet view: (imperial or noble) title, [natal place] xing + ming (zi + hao, or other identifier) Examples suffice to explain: 〔汉〕世宗孝武皇帝刘彻忠武侯【琅邪阳都】诸葛亮 (孔明) 〔梁〕高祖武皇帝【南兰陵】萧衍 (叔达) 昌县隐侯【吴兴武康】沈约 (休文) 【京兆杜陵】杜甫 (子美) 温国文正公【陕州夏县】司马光 (君实) 文忠公【眉州眉山】苏轼 (子瞻东坡) 【南直隶太仓】王世贞 (元美凤洲) 文简公【山东新城】王士禛 (贻上渔洋) 〔清〕世宗宪皇帝【爱新觉罗】胤禛(四) 〔清〕成哲亲王【爱新觉罗】永瑆(十一) 文襄公【直隶南皮】张之洞 (孝达香涛) One might wish to display the xing+ming in bigger font size. I'm not so certain that the "natal place" should be shortened or not: Tang and before, just the jun (of junwang), and Song and after, the county (of jiguan). It's not so clear cut in some cases; as a site primarily for texts, one could look for what the author used to identify themselves (the late standard: the county, xing+ming, hao) on the first page. It's curiously to note that such a habit of identifying the natal place was applied to European authors too, e.g. 【泰西】利玛窦 (西泰), and to this day books published in China include the author's country of origin, be it [古希腊]柏拉图 or [美]史景迁 (I wish they'd keep the tradition and identify Spence as from 英). If you think it's a good idea, I'd be very glad to help editing the person entities.

2022-09-23 04:23:38Data wiki: person entity

Posted by: liuyao

Glad to see ctext is moving to a markup platform (+ relational database, + more).

Over the last couple of years, I've come to the conviction that Chinese names should be treated as a multi-part identifier (more than just the xing + ming). I believe the full form should be displayed across the top of the "person entity" page, as well as the snippet view:

(imperial or noble) title, [natal place] xing + ming (zi + hao, or other identifier)

Examples suffice to explain:
〔汉〕世宗孝武皇帝刘彻
忠武侯【琅邪阳都】诸葛亮 (孔明)
〔梁〕高祖武皇帝【南兰陵】萧衍 (叔达)
昌县隐侯【吴兴武康】沈约 (休文)
【京兆杜陵】杜甫 (子美)
温国文正公【陕州夏县】司马光 (君实)
文忠公【眉州眉山】苏轼 (子瞻东坡)
【南直隶太仓】王世贞 (元美凤洲)
文简公【山东新城】王士禛 (贻上渔洋)
〔清〕世宗宪皇帝【爱新觉罗】胤禛(四)
〔清〕成哲亲王【爱新觉罗】永瑆(十一)
文襄公【直隶南皮】张之洞 (孝达香涛)

One might wish to display the xing+ming in bigger font size. I'm not so certain that the "natal place" should be shortened or not: Tang and before, just the jun (of junwang), and Song and after, the county (of jiguan). It's not so clear cut in some cases; as a site primarily for texts, one could look for what the author used to identify themselves (the late standard: the county, xing+ming, hao) on the first page.

It's curiously to note that such a habit of identifying the natal place was applied to European authors too, e.g. 【泰西】利玛窦 (西泰), and to this day books published in China include the author's country of origin, be it [古希腊]柏拉图 or [美]史景迁 (I wish they'd keep the tradition and identify Spence as from 英).

If you think it's a good idea, I'd be very glad to help editing the person entities.

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